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Recent AIDS Interview With Researcher Lawrence Broxmeyer MD



Booksandauthors.net: Dr. Broxmeyer, as a physician, What brought you into the AIDS arena with AIDS: What The Discoverers of HIV Never Admitted and your accompanying peer-reviewed AIDS article on that subject



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: A deep dissatisfaction with the theory that quickly grew around AIDS and the evolution of its treatment. As we pass the 20th anniversary of the first reported AIDS cases, it has infected nearly 60 million people of which 22 million, including nearly half-a-million Americans have died and 8,500 AIDS deaths occur daily. Yet, the prospects for a cure or vaccine are as remote as they were over two decades ago.



Booksandauthors.net: Your book suggests that the specific virus called a retrovirus we have come to know as HIV does not cause AIDS. Isn't this against mainstream thought



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: Correct, but let us not forget that originally a voluminous amount of self-fulfilling literature also attributed AIDS to the retrovirus HTLV1. This proved wrong.



Booksandauthors.net: When I think of dissident AIDS scientists, Dr. Peter Duesberg comes to mind.



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: As a prominent American retrovirologist who did much of the pioneer work on retroviral ultrastructure and at one time worked with Robert Gallo, who was in a better position to maintain that HIV did not cause AIDS



Booksandauthors.net: Yet the vast preponderance of current thought supports Dr. Luc Montagnier's and Dr. Robert Gallo's HIV as causative in AIDS.



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: Montagnier and Gallo were retrovirologists. Both at one time tried to attribute retroviruses to causing cancer. Such attempts failed miserably. When AIDS entered the picture retroviral research quickly shifted from cancer to finding a retrovirus responsible for AIDS.



Booksandauthors.net: Montagnier seemed fairly certain that HIV was behind AIDS.



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: In 1990 Montagnier and Lemitre found that cells cultured with "HIV", which normally died, grew well in the presence of two antibiotics, minocycline and doxycycline. Antibiotics do not affect viruses, so they were not working against HIV- it was a bacteria. Montagnier decided that that bacteria was probably a mycoplasma, a necessary "co-factor" for the AIDS virus to become fatal. This co-factor theory was in effect Montagnier's way of admitting that HIV, the virus he had discovered wasn't virulent enough in itself to even approach what happened in AIDS.



Booksandauthors.net: But if HIV does not cause AIDS, then what does



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: The antibiotics Montagnier was using also have activity against tuberculosis-like bacteria called mycobacteria. Tuberculosis and fowl tuberculosis (Mycobacterium avium) are not only the recognized leading causes of infectious disease in AIDS today, they are by far the most important infections in AIDS.



Booksandauthors.net: Dr. Broxmeyer, in October 2002 you and your group appeared in the extremely prestigious Journal of Infectious Diseases (JID), regarding a novel phage-based treatment to kill AIDS TB and avium. A summary of the article was subsequently featured as an Editor's Choice in the October 22nd issue of TB & Outbreaks Week. Was this related to a proposed AIDS vaccination or cure



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: Yes. That study used bacteriophages also called "phages" to kill AIDS tuberculosis. Phages are viruses which live inside bacteria some of which have the ability to kill them. In the JID study we presented the novel idea of introducing phages which we knew would kill AIDS TB and fowl tuberculosis (Mycobacteria avium) into a benign mycobacteria basically found in the genital secretions of every man and women called Mycobacteria smegmatis. Smegmatis, subsequently served as a veritable 'Trojan horse' to deliver phages destructive to virulent AIDS mycobacteria. Our results proved that their killing in the white blood cell was far in excess of what modern day antibiotics could achieve.



Booksandauthors.net: What do you see coming of AIDS in the future



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: Continued destruction and havoc until it is realized that AIDS is not caused by a 'retrovirus' and that different principles must be applied to effect a cure. Even in the case of America's potent and potentially dangerous anti-retroviral drugs, the last chapter has not been written. Regush mentions that these drug cocktails "have anti-microbial properties that could, to varying degrees, target other infections that are common to AIDS". FDA approval for any of these agents did not require information as to whether they were bactericidal.



Booksandauthors.net: But isn't AIDS supposed to be sexually transmitted How do you correlate this with your findings that the mycobacteria such as TB and Fowl TB are behind AIDS



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: By 1972, five years before gays started dying in the US, Rolland wrote Genital Tuberculosis, a Forgotten Disease And ironically, in 1979, on the eve of AIDS recognition, Gondzik and Jasiewicz showed that even in the laboratory, genitally infected tubercular male guinea pigs could infect healthy females thought their semen by an HIV-compatible ratio of 1 in 6 or 17%, prompting him to warn patients that not only was tuberculosis probably a sexually transmitted disease, but also the necessity of the application of suitable contraceptives, such as condoms to avoid it. Gondzik's solution and date of publication are chilling, his findings significant. The medical literature is peppered with references not only of tuberculosis but avian tuberculosis as potentially sexually transmitted disease.



Booksandauthors.net: This too is not widely appreciated.



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: Things move slowly in medicine. It has been my repeated experience that any patient, including an AIDS patient would much rather be told he has a 'virus' or 'retrovirus' then a form of tuberculosis.



Booksandauthors.net: You have many fascinating insights and we wish you continued success with your book and getting the word out there.



Lawrence Broxmeyer, M.D.: That's exactly the point. Research engines pointed in the wrong direction, no matter how extensive, have not and will not get us where we need to go.



Downloading of the article [Is AIDS really caused by a virus Medical Hypotheses (2003) 60(5), 671-688 2003 Elsevier Science Ltd].by Lawrence Broxmeyer MD, and his on-going research, can be found at http://medamericaresearch.org.



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